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Perhaps you could find some dates on the microphone or ear speaker if the covers can be unscrewed like the German handset?

Not really my area but as a general rule of thumb I thought all HBT were considered work/maintenance garments, even the assault artillery ones that seem to fetch a lot of money? I think I have a 4 pocket normal green one I can post when I can get into the attic.

Guys, as stated above, not my area but I find these very well made and easy on the eye? The later ones are just tat. Rich

Guys, as stated above. You some times you really have to look hard to see the fault or crack etc, but both are fairly obvious on this occasion. Cheep and cheerful...

I think probably didn't come home and it stayed as he left it?

This appears to be an herringbone twill (HBT) weave, rather than the ribbed cotton weave that was used in the blue M41 Luftwaffe tropical tunic. The HBT version was originally issued as a work uniform rather than a combat or class "A" uniform. It consisted of a tunic and trousers of the Luftwaffe pattern. This was to save wear and tear on the wool uniform. It was quite popular and comfortable and, so, was worn in the field in temperate weather in place of the wool uniform. This uniform was replaced by the Reed Green cotton HBT uniform used by the Heer in September 1943. The M41 blue Luftwaffe ribbed cotton uniform was the official first tropical uniform. There are blue tropical long trousers, shorts, and a web belt. All very difficult to find. Here is link to my tunic. https://www.militariacollectors.network/forums/topic/1807-m41-luftwaffe-tropical-tunic/

Thanks, Richard. Would the boards and ciphers have been changed after it was absorbed into the 111 div.? The boards are original to the overcoat as far as I know. Maybe the owner died early on in the conflict. I've had it for about 50 years, and the boards characteristics/wear seem to bear out they were not replaced.

https://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/Infanterieregimenter/IR117.htm

Hey guys, Thanks to Ross Torrington the Secretary of the AMCA of NSW, (Arms and Militaria Collectors Association) , for identifying this telephone. "In my opinion this is a British WW2 linesman’s field telephone type No 44c" In 1908 the GPO adopted a new model of Ericsson linesman’s phone as a light-weight very portable unit for use when repairing the phone network wiring. This is assigned the GPO model number No 44. There are subsequent minor upgrades to this as the GPO No 44a, GPO No 44b and GPO No 44c. These remain in use through to the 1960s. The differences between the models are fairly minor. They look very much the same, a small portable phone in a leather case with shoulder strap and did not need to use a dedicated battery (they use the power in the circuit). They used the No 84 collapsible handset (through to the 1920s). The hand set includes a “press to talk” switch on the microphone circuit. "WW2 military example of the 44c. Using a cast aluminium case to give a more robust and waterproof case, a 2-inch canvas shoulder strap. The standard GPO models used a collapsible telephone handset. Yours appears to have a more robust handset the data plate records it as model “Telephone Hand No 2” . Its not a No 84. The phone includes the connections for a 3-Volt battery pack to be connected to the phone." Obvious questions Were they used in Australian military service? I do not know, probably yes. Were they manufactured in Australia ? I don’t know, both British and Australian manufactured phone equipment usually have maker details and date of manufacture markings. Unfortunately (particularly with British made equipment) this is at times only a paper label glued inside the casing. Could this example have been made after WW2 ? Yes it could be made in the 1950s, but looking at the shoulder strap material WW2 is more likely. Post war would be more likely a dark green web similar to infantry web equipment P1944 webbing. So WW2 is more likely.

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Anyone know anything about Heer IR 117 in WWII? I've got a leather overcoat with 117 1st Lt. boards.

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Hi guys, Found this. I think it's WW2 vintage but cannot find anything to match on the net. I'm in Australia so suspect it's Australian / British. I can see 'Telephone 44c' and 'Telephone hand No2' ok cheers Francis

Ok thanks for the info.

Wehrmacht Awards Forum, watch out though there are a lot of sharks on there, I am banned under the same name I use here. War Relics Forum, a lot of decent people on it but I am also banned there too. Gentlemans Military Interest Club GIMIC, and lastly recently banned from there too so your on your own on these fora, there is a lot of good information on them but there is a lot of crap and fraudsters. Good luck! Rich

What is WAF & WRF? Different forums or different topics on this forum? I've never tried to get on any collector or history forums before this.

Well, looked them up 24 Kidney problems, 30 ear infection, 31 injured due to enemy action, 31b splinter damage shell fragment and finally 31a shot as well. I think he earned that wound badge.... Rich

Guys, as stated above. Started with 2. Pferde-Transport-Kolonne 571, got that from the FP number but it is just about discernible from page 1. Impresive for an old boy that he got EK2 and Inf sturm with a wound badge too.. Looking up the wound codes now.. Rich

Guys, As stated above. Rich

Yes, its difficult, I'm sorry I can't help any more. Don't rely on the black light as a positive, I have lots of period material and thread that I have found over the years. I use it to detect post war material but that does not mean everything is 100%, it is a good sign but 'half empty'! Can you reach out to any 'experts' on the more main stream fora? You could try WAF, WRF etc?

Thanks for the reply. The only marking that I could see inside the cap was the size. I can take a closer look later. These are some images that I have already taken of the inside. Under a black light there is no shine on any part of the cap. Even the white parts of the insignia are completely dull under a black light. It seems like someone sewed original insignia on an original/reproduction cap later on (perhaps a KM hat like you mentioned). I haven't done the black light on the inside of the cap. From the images of totenkopf that I have looked at online it seems like there are a few different variants so it's hard to compare with others without some more experience. I'm not necessarily looking for reassurance that it is real. I just want to accurately identify the cap. So appreciate the honesty.

Guys, a lot more paperwork, these being the highlites. There is a lot of unit produced magazines, if I get time i will scan them in, they are from the son, the young luftwaffe bloke. Love the wound badge doc, quite unusual? Rich

Guys, as stated above, from same mate! Rich

Guys, good day today from a work mate! Found in an ould property he bought and sold. Rich

Hi, I haven't had much SS stuff in the hand, yes I see the pictures but if I had a hat that needed to be rebadged then this would would be the simplest way to do it? Also it would disguise a KM hat , which has a very similar cut to the SS? Are there any SS markings inside the hat? My glass is always 1/2 empty until proven otherwise. Best Rich