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Wouldn't it be great if you could easily find all the available information on a particular radio set? One of the disadvantages of other forums and social media platforms is a lack of topical structure in the field of communications equipment. Although this allows random stories to grow organically, it does not help with the overview and searchability and the longer term retention of information. So some structure would be helpful but care must be taken that the structure does not get too complicated and inflexible.

The communications section is meant to cover military equipment from all eras and from all over the world. Most collectors will however have a much more focussed interest on a particular period or country. Likewise my own collecting focus is on WW2 German technical equipment, so what I can propose will be scewed towards that area. I would leave it to others to define a suitable structure in other areas.

What I want to propose is a one level deep subforum structure:

 

Communications Collector's Community Corner - Welcome, Introductions, Suggestions, Gossip and gripes

WW1 and the interwar years

WW2 British

WW2 US 

WW2 German Line equipment - Telephone, Telegraph, Telex, Bunker communications

WW2 German portable radio - Feldfunksprechers and Torn.Fu's

WW2 German tank and vehicle communications - FU-sets, Intercoms, Kfz and Sd.Kfz types, Vehicle equipment standards

WW2 German Luftwaffe radio - FuG-sets

WW2 German Kriegsmarine radio - Land based, Ship based, U-boot radio

WW2 German optical equipment - Blink und Lichtsprech, Infrared

WW2 German specialist radio equipment - Heavy stations, Direction Finders, Intercept receivers, Agent sets, Radar, cypher equipment etc.

WW2 German communications accessories - Batteries, Power supplies, Generators, Antennas, clocks, FU-boxes, Paperwork and Documentation

WW2 German Nachrichten troops - Organisation, Procedures, Traditions, History

WW2 German other electronic equipment - Ordnance and Weapon related, Mine detectors, Remote controls, Avionics etc.

WW2 German communications gear collection, display, restoration and use  - Schematics, Resources and Links, Restoration, Storage, Operation, Shipping, Displays

WW2 German unknown technical equipment - Help with identification

WW2 German Communications Reenactment equipment - Lookalikes, Home builds, Resources, Events

WW2 Other nations

Postwar communication equipment


...Discuss....

regards,

Funksammler

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Developing the proposed structure - again!
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@Funksammler i think we should bring comm section out from "Uniforms & Fieldgear" section and make it as a separate section. I think you should also be here as a moderator. Please start this discussion also at WAF, we need to invite all the key people to here and also ask their input too.

 

ps. we also need documentation subforum  for manuals, documents, books, funkspruch, sprechtafel etc. here we can attach them directly to the postings and this will be a great knowledge archive.

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18 minutes ago, val said:

@Funksammler  Please start this discussion also at WAF, we need to invite all the key people to here and also ask their input too.

Already done the WAF and FB. Just spread the word....

regards,

Funksammler

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I massaged the structure slightly, getting better I think....

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3 hours ago, Funksammler said:

I massaged the structure slightly, getting better I think....

@Funksammler do we include also "overall" section or not? From this depends whether we stay under the "Uniforms & Fieldgear" or move to the separate section after all and "Communications Equipment" would be only heading. See the current structure of other forums here.

Also, where would we post info about power supplys - umformers, tigerwürfel gg400 & Kl.M.S.C, wechselrichters, batteries etc - under accessories?

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ps. i didn't see the ww1 and prewar stuff in the list?

 

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Massaged the structure again, getting more comprehensive and errrm... structured! Further substructures can be managed with individual threads (can we pin threads?)

I am not so bothered where the communications gear section sits as I would go straight there with a bookmark. Whatever is best for the sake of managing the overall MCN structure.... 

I am happy to moderate the communications section but I will need some guidance on the available tools and policies here on the MCN...

regards,

Funksammler

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12 minutes ago, fieldgear said:

Hi Funksammler & Val. I haven't been on MCN for ages and having surfed by I like what you discuss !

Hi @fieldgear, nice to have you here! All your input is welcome, we will create here the greatest communication

information archive!

 

 

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On 23/09/2018 at 12:08, Funksammler said:

Wouldn't it be great if you could easily find all the available information on a particular radio set? One of the disadvantages of other forums and social media platforms is a lack of topical structure in the field of communications equipment. Although this allows random stories to grow organically, it does not help with the overview and searchability and the longer term retention of information. So some structure would be helpful but care must be taken that the structure does not get too complicated and inflexible.

The communications section is meant to cover military equipment from all eras and from all over the world. Most collectors will however have a much more focussed interest on a particular period or country. Likewise my own collecting focus is on WW2 German technical equipment, so what I can propose will be scewed towards that area. I would leave it to others to define a suitable structure in other areas.

What I want to propose is a one level deep subforum structure:

 

Communications Collector's Community Corner - Welcome, Introductions, Suggestions, Gossip and gripes

WW1 and the interwar years

WW2 British

WW2 US 

WW2 German Line equipment - Telephone, Telegraph, Telex, Bunker communications

WW2 German portable radio - Feldfunksprechers and Torn.Fu's

WW2 German tank and vehicle communications - FU-sets, Intercoms, Kfz and Sd.Kfz types, Vehicle equipment standards

WW2 German Luftwaffe radio - FuG-sets

WW2 German Kriegsmarine radio - Land based, Ship based, U-boot radio

WW2 German optical equipment - Blink und Lichtsprech, Infrared

WW2 German specialist radio equipment - Heavy stations, Direction Finders, Intercept receivers, Agent sets, Radar, cypher equipment etc.

WW2 German communications accessories - Batteries, Power supplies, Generators, Antennas, clocks, FU-boxes, Paperwork and Documentation

WW2 German Nachrichten troops - Organisation, Procedures, Traditions, History

WW2 German other electronic equipment - Ordnance and Weapon related, Mine detectors, Remote controls, Avionics etc.

WW2 German communications gear collection, display, restoration and use  - Schematics, Resources and Links, Restoration, Storage, Operation, Shipping, Displays

WW2 German unknown technical equipment - Help with identification

WW2 German Communications Reenactment equipment - Lookalikes, Home builds, Resources, Events

WW2 Other nations

Postwar communication equipment


...Discuss....

regards,

Funksammler

 

Hi Funksammler.

I´m agree with you that main interest in this section could be WW2 german equipment but I suggest that there could be opened new subforums under the generic "other nations" to post comms items not included in WW2 era, where it could be included comms sections of other nations. My collection is mainly focused in Line Communications employed by Spanish armed forces along 20th century ( my older item is from the beginning of century) but having suffered a Civil war in 1936-39, there is a lot of stuff from other countries like Germany, USSR, France, UK, USA, Belgium, Italy and others and It could be posted in this sections.

Greetings from Spain.

ezesar.

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On 30/09/2018 at 23:20, ezesar said:

I´m agree with you that main interest in this section could be WW2 german equipment but I suggest that there could be opened new subforums under the generic "other nations" to post comms items not included in WW2 era, where it could be included comms sections of other nations. My collection is mainly focused in Line Communications employed by Spanish armed forces along 20th century ( my older item is from the beginning of century) but having suffered a Civil war in 1936-39, there is a lot of stuff from other countries like Germany, USSR, France, UK, USA, Belgium, Italy and others and It could be posted in this sections.

 

Hi @ezesar - there's currently "WW1 and the Interwar Years" section without any nation mentioned and also "WW2 Other nations" - could those fit you? Section "WW1 and the Interwar Years" can freely include any item of any nation 'til ww2. I would also love very much to see your collection.

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Thanks for your feedback so far. We'll develop the structure in the coming months and take all your comments in consideration. Right now I want to generate some more content and get some discussions going as a forum. After all the proof of the pudding will be in the eating! So please keep looking, asking and commenting!

regards,

Funksammler

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Funksammler, I think this idea of yours is great! I’m new to WW2 German Funk and have been searching all over the Web for Info. This should help concentrate it. Danke Sehr! Schorch. 

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  • Field Marshall

Looking good guys.... I'm redoing the classifieds/sales area and then will do a proper download/files area. Let's get it nice and busy and we can fine tune as we go along... :)

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All is so true to life and War...

Without communications, there really would have been no hope for anyone...especially the British during both Wars but more so during WW2...Without Bletchley Park,  and a ll those associated with the "Secret World" world on radio, transmissions and intelligence.....England would have been lost....Many Grateful Thanks to those Hero's and Heroine's of the Polish Army and to those at Blectchley who broke the codes- Dilwyn Knox and Alan Turin and his close and very knowlegable associates.....We probably would have lost the 2nd World War! Eventually conquering the U-Boat Destruction of millions of tons of ships

And to the two men who lost their lives in rescuing the Enigma machine from a downed U-Boat...Grassien & Fassier???(please correct me) who both lost their lives rescuing this machine and its pink - decipher book. codes, as it sunk into abyss of the sea, the British would have had NO hope of cracking the U-Boat  codes!...We succeeded in part of sinking and destroying so many U- Boat Wolf Packs...To these we owe our Gratitude....IanB

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On 04/10/2018 at 11:40, val said:

Hi @ezesar - there's currently "WW1 and the Interwar Years" section without any nation mentioned and also "WW2 Other nations" - could those fit you? Section "WW1 and the Interwar Years" can freely include any item of any nation 'til ww2. I would also love very much to see your collection.

Hi val.

First of all let me apologize. My mail service "thought" that MCN nessages were "undesired" and I didn´t see it until now.

Well, I suppose that as you suggest other nations could fit in "WW1 and the Interwars Years" but if the aim is to create oner of the most important military Comms info place, probably in a future could be some collector of older stuff like field telephony,  optical (flags or heliographs) or  portable electric telegraphy items as used in Spanish-American war or Boer war at the end of XIX century or American Civil war...

As example some images of my heliograph from the end of 19th century or beginning of the 20th century, same model as employed in Cuba and Philippines by our troops. And one article from ABC newspaper dated february 29, 1896, where it appear a Laguna heliograph like mine and Mangin light device used at night.

Those heliographs where employed at least until the end of 1936-39 Spanish Civil War.

Best regards from Spain.

C.

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Thank you @ezesar, very interesting heliograph!

What for was this bag - for mirrors and accessories?

Everything here is still in development and i have thoughts that probably we will have so few WW1

stuff anyway so all the other nations and items fit there too but if you have content, we will create

you a separate section.

 

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Thanks val.

Leather bag is the transport chest for the upper section. Legs have its own one made with two leather cilinders with straps.

C.

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@Funksammler, i think we need a separate section for teleprinter systems too.

Besides using telephone lines (which fits under line communication) there were wireless systems

Sägefisch, WTK, EFFK and also Hellschreiber over the air. BTW, if you have any info on those WTK boxes - pictures,

manuals, bring them on :)

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7 minutes ago, kriegsfunker said:

This is Yuri - I'm finally here.

Welcome! We were waiting for you for a long time :)

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Hello Yuri,

Same as Val....Welcome to MCN, we hope you enjoy this superb website ad we all look forward to seeing some of your collection.

Best Wishes for a safe & Peaceful 2019.

Desert Rat/ Ian

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Thank you for the warm welcome.  I can already feel the better energy here.

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Of Course Very Best Wishes to You Also Val for 2019,

Get some of your images on here from your collection, they are always very interesting (even though I know nothing really about - this high tech stuff)

Best to you....Desert Rat

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