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2 unblackened prewar Wehrmacht belts


Björn

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I have two Brown Wehrmacht leather belts in my collection.
The leather belts do not show any signs of wear. One of the buckles might have been worn, but most of the green paint is still present.

It's a bit tricky to get good pictures of leather belts, so please excuse my poor photographers skills.

 

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The first one here is a 1938 dated belt and buckle.

 

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Producers mark on the belt buckle leather flap.
H.Arld 1938 Nuernberg

 

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Producers mark on the belt itself.
Böttcher & Renner
Nürnberg - O.
1938

 

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The second belt is 1939 dated. No leather flap on this buckle unfortinently.

 

 

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A few months before world war 2 was a fact. June 1939. Bekleidungsamt Fürstenberg depot stamp.

 

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Producers mark.
Rieth & Kopp G.m.b.H. (Gesellschaft mit beschrenkter Haftung) Offenbach am Main, April 1939

 

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Thanks for the nice comments guys.
I really appreciate it  :)

Best Regards

Björn

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Thats the first time I,ve seen a pair of belts like that, as being pre war, these must be pretty rare especially in that condition

 

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@Björn,Odd to see the designation B.A. Furth /  "Bekleidungsamt Furth" with a "Heer" buckle, my understanding from Wilhelm P.B.R. Saris and others is this type of belt was for the Reichsarbeitsdienst supplied from Furth, the other abbreviations are Bn=Berlin  Br- Braunschweig  Ma=Marburg  Sa=Salzburg. We also see this marking on the RAD "Bullet Hangers" too.

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Thanks. I did not know that this type of markings were connected to the RAD organisation.
I've seen several other items sold as Heer items, with this type of markings. And without a RAD stamp or marking, I really don't mind.
The construction of the belt itself do not differ from how the WH belts were made, and the overall condition matches the buckle.

But nice to know anyway.

After a quick search, I found some other things wich were sold as Heer items, with this type of markings:

 

https://www.ratisbons.com/auctions-archive/17th-contemporary-history-auction/wehrmacht-em-nco-field-boots-b-a-f-139.html

 

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/original-ww2-german-ww2-1941-dated-489889766

 

https://majormilitary.eu/products/cuir-de-ceinturon-heer-avec-marquage-regimentaire

 

 

Best Regards

Björn

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@Björn, Thanks for the links, I shall do a bit more checking on my end of the items posted in the links, I in no way meant to detract from the quality or overall look of how you have them attached to the very nice buckles. G

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On 28/11/2019 at 23:34, Davejb said:

Thats the first time I,ve seen a pair of belts like that, as being pre war, these must be pretty rare especially in that condition

 

Yes, they are quite rare in this condition, but not un-heard of.
I recently descovered a serie of colour photographs from the late 30's, wich show the dressing up and equipping of new recruits for cavallery service. It clearly shows un-blackened belts, boots and leather equipment being issued to the troops.

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