Libertesoe Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I know I'm new to the MCN folks but I wanted to bring to your attention the following, which was only recently brought to my attention but will no doubt may impact on many UK collectors:- http://dwa977.wix.com/dwa1#!eu-legislation/b7t85 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetzersGonnaHetz Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I don't have the required thingymajig to read it, what does it basically say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beldar Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 hour ago, HetzersGonnaHetz said: I don't have the required thingymajig to read it, what does it basically say. http://media.wix.com/ugd/957eb3_145cd65ddd17428d89e97d02cbab596e.pdf "Whilst the new EU Regulation for deactivation is not retrospective for those collectors who wish to keep their collections, any deactivated firearm placed on the market from now will have to be re-deactivated to the EU specification." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetzersGonnaHetz Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 So they are basically double deactivating deactivated weapons to make sure they can't go pew pew. I think Brussels are getting a bit twitchy that deact dealers are all ISIS members. But they do have Good reasoning behind it so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan1800 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Mags to be welded on to so realy just a llump of steel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major General Waffenamt Posted February 24, 2016 Major General Share Posted February 24, 2016 Just now, Satan1800 said: Mags to be welded on to so realy just a llump of steel Therefore no point having them in my opinion bud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetzersGonnaHetz Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 15 minutes ago, Waffenamt said: Therefore no point having them in my opinion bud. I'm a bit pissed now, never had the chance to own one and now there's no point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PmMeYourCats Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yeah this may not be going through mate. Even the proof houses are against it as you cant exactly weld a Bakelite magazine to a steel receiver now can you? Similarly the EU has pulled this whole thing out of their Shitters without doing their homework and they've been called out on it by a few of our representative's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan1800 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I hope so as there's been nothing but legislation aimed at legitimate shooters since hungerford ,and dumblain which at least one of them could have been avoided if police had acted on there intelligence earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan1800 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 In the wise old quotes from John cleese. You want to do pointed sticks , Deactivate em 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetzersGonnaHetz Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 You're right Bryan. Brussels will soon be taxing air so stockpile it while you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beldar Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Sorry you fellas have to go thru all of this. Are there any purchase restrictions once these weapons are deactivated (eew, thats a nasty word)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshall Lenny Posted February 25, 2016 Field Marshall Share Posted February 25, 2016 It's a proposal, and I'm doubtful whether it will happen.The UK deact spec is one of, if not the safest way to deactivate a firearm. They should make the rest of Europe come in line with the UK and leave it at that. Even the Proof Master says it's unworkable... I'm hoping it is, and we keep the Status Quo... well apart from the double denim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major General Waffenamt Posted February 26, 2016 Major General Share Posted February 26, 2016 Ive personally got 3 deacs in the collection. MG34,MG42 and a K98.. al with certs. I did buy an ex blank firing MP40 with no cert but is chopped and covered in proof house stamps,ive often wondered about it? Im in no hurry to let any of them go,but curious to know the future for them/ Are they to be kept forever or do i have to have them chopped to feck for new spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan1800 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 On the last surrender of hand guns after dunblane I beleive according to eu legislation we all had to be compensated for surrendering our hand guns ,and that cost the government 45 million at the time,so if these measures are put into place I wonder if the same thing would happen ,as it would be a fair bit more that 45 mill this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan1800 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 But just to add ,even since then I don't think armed crime has gone down much if at all ,as they just find something else to kill each other with and won't be a deactivated bren gun I know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle B Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I doubt this will ever be enforceable, even if it did happen. The backlash has been quite widespread throughout the EU I have heard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PmMeYourCats Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Kyle B said: I doubt this will ever be enforceable, even if it did happen. The backlash has been quite widespread throughout the EU I have heard. They've just passed it. Saw it this morning that everything from the 8th of April has to be brought into the new spec. Anything you bought before can remain as the old spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetzersGonnaHetz Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 @BryanDavidson I thought it meant that any deactivation done on a weapon after 8th April, has to be new spec. If it was done 20 years ago and you buy it after 8th April I thought it didn't have to be new spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan1800 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Just typical as this government and the general public don't want a society that have anything to do with firearms as we are not to be trusted ,but that wasn't what Churchill said in 1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PmMeYourCats Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 1 hour ago, HetzersGonnaHetz said: @BryanDavidson I thought it meant that any deactivation done on a weapon after 8th April, has to be new spec. If it was done 20 years ago and you buy it after 8th April I thought it didn't have to be new spec. As far as it's been put out right now any firearm deactivated before the 8th has to be redeactivated if it is sold after the 8th. So new and old spec will become New new spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetzersGonnaHetz Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Ain't dat some bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav352 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Same s**t different day :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetzersGonnaHetz Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Who here can tell a fake K98 from a pukka one, if so PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshall Lenny Posted February 29, 2016 Field Marshall Share Posted February 29, 2016 On 27/02/2016 at 18:46, HetzersGonnaHetz said: Who here can tell a fake K98 from a pukka one, if so PM me. It's not fakes as such you need to worry about, it's export models or Russian captures. (which I like as you know they've seen action.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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