Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Had a phone call from neighbour this morning ' Hi we are at the bank holiday Carboot and a guy has a German helmet do you want it we know you like that kind of stuff,it's £5 ?' Well the answer was yes lol,pointless going into details with them for a £5 and ten minutes ago they turned up with this . Absoluety why someone would sell this for a fiver,it's certainly a repro but it's a bloody good one,so studs and a liner needed now . Edited May 2, 2016 by Fred Karno's Army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 For a fiver its worth it, Although I would repaint it with proper camo, with three colours and the correct finger width dividing lines. Repro studs are available almost everywhere, and a repro three pad liner from SOF and I think you will still be in the money, or go the other way and make it transitional 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 @Davejb that's better picks in the sunlight . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Yeah it looks ok but too many exact lines, ,,done with masking tape no doubt, I would still change it, but it does have a great deal of potential for a cheap repro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshall Lenny Posted May 2, 2016 Field Marshall Share Posted May 2, 2016 I'll show you a profit @Ham & Jam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav352 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) @Lenny fitted in quite well in the WW1 section . Edited May 2, 2016 by Fred Karno's Army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Davejb said: For a fiver its worth it, Although I would repaint it with proper camo, with three colours and the correct finger width dividing lines. Repro studs are available almost everywhere, and a repro three pad liner from SOF and I think you will still be in the money, or go the other way and make it transitional Cheers @Davejb they have the liners and chinstraps,also I must admit I like the look of this dependant on quality,but for £30 it looks reasonable enough ?.I know real ones are nigh on existent these days. Edited May 2, 2016 by Fred Karno's Army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major General Bil4338 Posted May 2, 2016 Major General Share Posted May 2, 2016 Jeez, wish I knew folk like your neighbours, just a pity it was a repro, nice as it is! these neat lines would get on my wick though, I'd need to go over them with some thick paint.if you do decide to do a repop, please remember to post the results...preferably to me! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I shall at some point endeavour to repaint the lozenge,and yes we have great neighbours they wouldn't even take the money for the helmet ,but we still all look after each other on our small avenue,very lucky TBH.They are always looking out at car boots for me for bits,I am limited to my health these days so wondering around a field bustling with folks is well out of my comfort zone . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Hiya, Last year at the Stirling car boot, their was ( still is) a guy who has some of the best junk available, he had a WW1 helmet just like that, you could see it was originally black, had some rusty parts, but was complete with liner, he wanted £80 for it, and said he was selling on behalf of a mate, but he would go to £50 for it..I didnt have a clue, and didnt want to risk £50...tho, went back the next week to see him about it,see if he would do it for £40.... it was gone....:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 A week in the carboot world is like a month anywhere else, I daresay he had two other boots in that time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 H&J, I,ve seen one of their helmet plates at WAP, its pretty shiney but needs to be dulled down with paint, other than that it fits repros pretty well provided the bolts have been positioned well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagodave Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I've never had a repro helmet. I seen one at an antique store and the quality was terrible but I'm sure they make all different grades of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 This doesn't seem bad at all like some of the 'BAD' ones I have seen from India and the like,but like the guys have pointed out the lozenge needs reapplying.I have ordered a liner and studs today,they cost 5 times more than the helmet lol ,that would have been if the neighbors would have accepted the £5 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 (edited) WTF ,this is my liner I received from SOF this morning,hastened to say its going back ! White !, WHITE ,.....IS IT A PANTYLINER OR HELMET LINER @Davejb Edited May 5, 2016 by Fred Karno's Army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Is it white/cream leather, if it is, then thats how some of them were made originally, the darkening process happened through wearing, ie sweat, grease from hair, oil on hair etc. I think they do that because some people want either a pristine ,just issued helmet or leave it to you to colour the leather just how you want it. I,d keep it personally and use a tan boot polish to colour it to the required colour, then scuff the edges slightly and add a very small amount of vasaline to flatten them. then buff up the leather with a soft brush, that will produce a matt surface appearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 It's vinyl it's not even leather it's almost plastic,you couldn't do anything with regards to dying it,it's absolutely shocking,spoke to them and it's going back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Ahh I see what they,ve done, it looks like leather at the rear and do you think they have covered the outside portion with a "vinyl"coating?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I had a very close look at the liner, this is,nt the type you find at WAP, they normally had proper leather, I,m wondering if they spent too much on construction. Let me make a few enquiries with a couple of sites I know, they produce some pretty reasonable ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Much appreciated @Davejb . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Ok I,ve had a quick look, most of the better leather constructed ones are from America now, but there are a few on German E-Bay that look pretty reasonable, The one you bought is complete rubbish, and I,m very surprised that SOF got it so wrong, the three pad liner did not have vent holes anyway , but to make them from vinyl is ridiculous, but i suspect its to keep costs down, but they were so good at producing very decent liners at one time. Its really up to you as to what you want, personally , i would wait. If you are able to get to WAP or Odyssey, you will find ones that will suit your helmet, I did at one time make a few three pad liners for a couple of friends, but its a lot of work, leather wise, stitching the rear horse hair pads in, the leather band is hard to source, but I used old leather belts and getting the size right is difficult. But none of that is helping you at the moment. But I did find your helmet on a number of sites with more or less the same camo pattern, but again they were all repros, so its obviously a well produced repro, If I can find any other sites ,I,ll let you know. I,ll be trolling a few later on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Ok heres a site that might interest you, The Prairie Flower Leather Company, they do a very good repro, and for $65 =£45 all in incl postage thats not bad, Its American but for that you get everything, even a choice of Horsehair or Gauze pads, pins ,the works, plus the whole thing is coloured tan leather, and you just quote the type and sizes required, hope that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major General Bil4338 Posted May 5, 2016 Major General Share Posted May 5, 2016 Agreed that liners atrocious, and I'd expect a heck of a lot more from SoF.quite right these liners never had ventilation holes either, that's a really bad oversight too.send it back and put the money towards a PFLCo one instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagodave Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Wow I won't buy from them sorry you got burned on that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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