Gwar 136 Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Another member and myself recently had a discussion on RAD buckles and how some are faked. First introduced in early 36' the buckle replaced the old FAD variants and adapted a new uniform look, designed by Ergon Jantke who was already a fixture in Third Reich as the "Technical Advisor" for the RAD high command designing uniforms, insignia and other items. The buckle was described as having the "New" RAD emblem of a pointed shovel surrounded by five ears of corn in a circle with a pebbled field, no lettering was visible. The construction was a one piece die struck aluminum and there were several manufactures, the most prolific being in the Ludenscheid area ie; FW Assman, Richard Sieper & Sohns, Steinhaur & Luck, etc; etc; 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwar 136 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 The RAD were considered a State Organization and therefore were not governed by the control of the RZM and no buckles should have any RZM markings whatsoever. Here is a very bad fake from the Czech Republic, no Third Reich buckle was ever produced or manufactured in this fashion and any and all in this configuration are to be considered Fake. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwar 136 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Rad buckles were never produced in steel. The tell here is also the faint but visible "Dot" left over from the fakers during the process. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwar 136 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Again, RAD buckles were never made in steel.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwar 136 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Another bad fake, this one is from Poland. Notice the RZM and M4 designation, first clue to a fake. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwar 136 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 This one catches people out a lot.. A cast Gustave Brehmer, there is a identifier though, a cast "Flaw" under the Spaten, recently though the fakers I believe have corrected this impurity, either way they are still being sold as "Replica" but who is to say they don't fall into the hands of unscrupulous sellers on the internet or dealers asleep at the wheel. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwar 136 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 A recent "Fake" is the LGS or L Gottlieb & Sohn, similar in comparison to the GB buckle but the casting process left a mark or "Bubble" on the Spaten. This one is really close in look, but the overall construction without giving too many details is alarming. So, when considering a purchase of any buckle you are unsure of, ask a Forum like this or others and seek input before parting ways with your cash, the bottom line is to have quality items in your collection at a reasonable price and the satisfaction of knowing all your pieces are genuine. Hope this helped someone, any questions or comments are welcome.. G 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike H 161 Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Now I have to admit I'm neither a RAD or buckle collector but that was damn interesting! Thank you 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desert Rat 1,097 Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 Hello Mike, Same as you I am completely not going to collect these again....unless I can be certain they are genuine (which I think will be worth a lot more) I have had a few in my small collection and sold a few...but this is my final decision.....DO NOT BUY ANYMORE!!! Best to you.....Desert Rat/ Ian 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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