Tre Kronor Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Hello folks! My first post on here and I would like to show you my minty M40 ND helmet. It is a late war produced rear stamped Q66 DN535. Never before in a collection. The previous owner who found it on his grandmother's attic posted this one upp for sale in a buy/sell militaria group on FB luckily for me no one else apparently knew what he had so I got a very good deal. But the helmet had a drawstring on the pics he sent me a little loose but still there, when it arrived the string was no show I guess to a non collector a lost string does not sound like a big deal but I was on him like crazy asking him to trying to find the damn string LOL Anyway here's the helmet! Regards! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Very nice helmet with a cracking liner, but the chinstrap has me puzzled, the National Business Number introduced after 1942 and stamped RBnr was the standard marking followed by a number denoting the makers code, yours has RF which I dont recognise as I cannot find it in the listings I have, do you have any details on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Kronor Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 26 minutes ago, Davejb said: Very nice helmet with a cracking liner, but the chinstrap has me puzzled, the National Business Number introduced after 1942 and stamped RBnr was the standard marking followed by a number denoting the makers code, yours has RF which I dont recognise as I cannot find it in the listings I have, do you have any details on this Thank you Dave. Glad you like it. As I understand it, it stands for Reich Fabrik Nummer instead of the RBNr Reichs Betriebs Nummer This makers straps is stamped like this and as I have read SCHUBERTH-WERK is the maker. If you are a member on the walhalla forum there are plenty of reference straps with this maker code. I include a photo of the buckle for you to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Thanks for that, I knew that the strap was a genuine one but the number designation puzzled me, Theres no mention of it in all the helmet sites I visited nor my lists, I,ll add it to mine, cheers Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAK D Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Hi @Tre Kronor, Wow that's a super example of an ND Quist M40 thanks for sharing D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Kronor Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 Thank you DAK D! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major General Bil4338 Posted June 5, 2016 Major General Share Posted June 5, 2016 Quite superb helmet, lovely liner and chinstrap too.the RF # has puzzled me also, but I came to the conclusion it was a late war variation/update on the RB number. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAK D Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 12 hours ago, Bil4338 said: Quite superb helmet, lovely liner and chinstrap too.the RF # has puzzled me also, but I came to the conclusion it was a late war variation/update on the RB number. Hi @Bil4338, That's exactly what the RF number was mate D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu Della Valle Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 The RFNr is 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% LEGIT! Cracking lid,btw! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Kronor Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Thank you Manu Della Valle! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu Della Valle Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 On 10/6/2016 at 13:24, Tre Kronor said: Thank you Manu Della Valle! Cheers! You're welcome @Tre Kronor !The RFNr is but a variation of the RBNr and it just means REICHS FABRIK/FIRMEN NUMMER whereas RBNr means REICH BETREIBS NUMMER...as simple as that! Cheers Manu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 You learn something every day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAK D Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 I have seen RB numbered tropical uniform items dated 1942 and the RF number system used on 1943 and 44 uniform items. This is a photo of an 1944 made tropical M40 peaked cap. I owned a 1943 dated RF numbered M40, so there is evidence that the RB/RF codes were really the just the same thing. D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu Della Valle Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 It's just "Company" under another name! ReichsBETRIEB(Company)Nummer vs. Reichs FABRIK/FIRMA nummer Cheers M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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