Norrie Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Hi guys, I told you this helmet collecting is getting a tad addictive..but as funds are limited, i'm stuck to the more "mundane" examples so far...the wife says if I sell my guns, I can buy lots more helmets....This has probs been done to death, but, as this is only my second British helmet.,literally just bought off the bay, its a dated 1953, with liner and chin strap.... I'm quite chuffed with it, particularly as I grew up seeing this model helmet on the TV almost every day in different theatres......got one question tho, should I try and get rid of the surface rust, or leave as is once it gets here...?? Pics below. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 In my opinion i suppose it is how hard core a collector are you ,and are you damaging or detracting the item away from what it was originally. @Mark K is the man mate,but I think it's best in some circumstances to leave as found,of course preventative measures against time etc,but generally I like to leave an item as I found it condition wise,it has a story to tell . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Definately leave it alone, by removing any light rust you will also be removing the textured finish and the original paint, and you will never be able to reproduce the effect again, do not add oil as this softens paint over time, even WD40 would have an adverse effect. For some reason our paint schemes on old helmets seems to be thinner and easier to remove than others, at least thats what I,ve found over the years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 Great stuff chaps....thankyou, I did think about WD40, but will leave well alone now..... I was worried about "detracting" from the helmet....I'm just a wee bit worried about the rust getting worse, would it be ok to give it a rub with some polish or some such other stuff... ?? Just hoping to stop the rot so to speak...mind you, they way SHE heats this house, their will never be any damp to assist the rust...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major General Bil4338 Posted May 6, 2016 Major General Share Posted May 6, 2016 I'd be inclined to leave it alone.dunno if wax polish would taint the paintwork, maybe a wipe with a damp,cloth followed by a dry one would suffice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark K Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) I would agree with the gents above and IMO current condition does not warrant restoration and or tampering with the original finish on the helmet I would be inclined as well to wipe it out with a damp cloth and leave well enough alone .I believe if it is kept in a humidity free dry environment that the current condition will change very little in your life time.I may be tempted to adorn it with either a late war knotted and or post war net such as shown on one of my examples below which will do wonders for changing the appearance and making it a little more pleasing to the eye ... Regards Mark Edited May 7, 2016 by Mark K 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetzersGonnaHetz Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 @Davejb should he use RenWax? From your comment I've realised why my WW1 RF Engineers helmet has lost paint, before I knew about RenWax I applied oil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 Thanks again guys, I did think about a net , you just made my mind up for me..:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejb Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Renaisance wax would protect the shell from further outside deterioration, dirt, damp, humidity etc, its used by many museums on exhibits of value or just to maintain the look of displays, plus a great deal of collectors use it . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 Just ordered Ren Wax from the bay...Thanks @Davejb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshall Lenny Posted May 8, 2016 Field Marshall Share Posted May 8, 2016 As mentioned, if stored in correct temp/humidity it'll be fine. Also, another thumbs up for Renaissance Wax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major General Bil4338 Posted May 8, 2016 Major General Share Posted May 8, 2016 I ordered mine before I set off this morning... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 Another question for you guys...helmet has arrived, and I'd like to remove the liner to give it and the helmet a wee spruce up...., but , how do you take it out, I know you "lift" the green chrome thing in the middle, but no idea how to do it....help!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Just give it a gentle but firm tug upwards mate,my need some oil or such on stud,it should just then pop straight out Norrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ham & Jam said: Just give it a gentle but firm tug upwards mate,my need some oil or such on stud,it should just then pop straight out Norrie. Wooohooo, What a clever chap you are, was a tad tight,, but a wee bit 3 in one, and off it popped...:) Thanks Paul..:) BTW, delivered by Hermes this afternoon...sorry...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 They are renown for not coming out without a fight,but then again who wants a helmet that the liner falls out from !. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylon1357 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 I have one similar kicking around in the basement of the house. IIRC it is repainted black. I bought it sight unseen for $5.00. It is a low rivet placement so post war example. Sooner or later, I will the trigger on a Wartime example. I hear most Canadian Collectors refer to these as 3rd Div helmets, owing to the fact many of the 3rd Canadian Infantry Divisional personnel were issued these for D-Day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 That turtle is the second in my "collection" of helmets...I don't really collect them, BUT, if I see one at a decent price, and it interests me, I'll have it...:) I have a Canadian 1943 ( I think) Brodie at my daughters in LA, shes bringing it home to me later this year, I bought it from a lovely lady in the US for not a lot of money....tho, it seems it's unissued... ..liner is good, and I have a new old stock chin strap for it here.....I can see me "specialising" in WW2 helmets tho...if I win the Lottery....:) I'm having great fun watching for them on the bay, and other places.. and talking about them on here ..I now understand how folks get hooked on it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major General Bil4338 Posted May 11, 2016 Major General Share Posted May 11, 2016 Believe me Norrie, once you've got a couple, they'll multiply viciously until you can't move! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark K Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 @Norrie turn back now before its to late once you catch the bug there is no cure known to science the best we will be able to offer up in the form of help will be support from like minded fellows there are some very good groups were you can get therapy I believe they call them forums...lol... Regards Mark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 LOL, I know exact;y what you both mean now, home from work about an hour ago,,dinner, a wee fondle of the hat i have, and straight onto the t'internet looking for more hats....:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 20 hours ago, Mark K said: @Norrie turn back now before its to late once you catch the bug there is no cure known to science the best we will be able to offer up in the form of help will be support from like minded fellows there are some very good groups were you can get therapy I believe they call them forums...lol... Regards Mark @Mark K,....arghhh....just made my first cockup.....on the old turtle helmet ( my pride and joy for now) I cleaned the brass chinstrap fittings, thinking, geez, these are black!!!! only to find out, they were blacked out to begin with...and i should'nt have touched them at all......:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshall Lenny Posted May 13, 2016 Field Marshall Share Posted May 13, 2016 13 hours ago, Norrie said: @Mark K,....arghhh....just made my first cockup.....on the old turtle helmet ( my pride and joy for now) I cleaned the brass chinstrap fittings, thinking, geez, these are black!!!! only to find out, they were blacked out to begin with...and i should'nt have touched them at all......:( Such is life, better to do it with a post war lid than a war time one... Generally it's best to leave helmets alone, light dab with a damp cloth at most. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Just now, Lenny said: Such is life, better to do it with a post war lid than a war time one... Generally it's best to leave helmets alone, light dab with a damp cloth at most. Now I could say something here but I won't,for fear of setting Manu off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshall Lenny Posted May 13, 2016 Field Marshall Share Posted May 13, 2016 hahahahahahaha.... some people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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